The Midlands Churches of Christ

MINUTES OF THE SHEPHERDING GROUP
THURSDAY 19th FEBRUARY 2004

ATTENDEES: Trevor Dennis, Duncan Lawrence, Andy Torbet
IN ATTENDENCE: Ade Desalu, Derek Edmondson
APOLOGIES: Warner & Kay Baker, Scott & Clare Bryden, Maxine Dennis, Juliette Lawrence, Jimmy & Deborah Ogunshakin, Bob & Maureen Truman, Helen Torbet

The meeting began at 8.15pm and opened with a prayer.


  Topic Action
1. Matters Arising from Previous Minutes  
 
  • Minutes from previous meeting (03/02/04) were agreed.
 
 
  • Following the Lavals’ move to Lincoln it was agreed that the Shepherds should make efforts to ensure that the house group can still meet. AT will have initial discussions with Bob & Mo Truman and Glen.
AT
 
  • AD regretted that he had not discussed the issue of disbursements with DL. It was noted that there were general policies to be set up in this regard.
 
 
  • TD had spoken to Warner Baker with regard to his involvement in the Shepherds. WB has not made a definite decision either way as yet.
 
 
  • No updates on the prospect of a class being led by Trevor Gordon as JO not present.
 
 
  • AT repeated the request for a consistent meeting date. AT suggested an interim solution to be a Monday evening to allow JO to attend (JO currently working away 4 days/wk for 3 months). Those present thought this would be ok but put forward Thursday as the next best alternative. AT to obtain feedback from other shepherds.
AT
2. Legal/Finance  
  AD presented his case for reform in the finances of the church. He had recently been devoting some time to his role as Treasurer and felt that poor lines of communication, scattered storage of information and a lack of careful filing were hampering the current system. AD suggested that a focal point was needed and suggested renting a small office space. AD had obtained various quotes in the range of £350-500/month and the best option was at Edgbaston Business Centre off the Hagley Road at £350/month.

AD thought that, in line with the aspirations of the church and following the recent presentation evening, giving was due to rise substantially. The office would therefore provide a more professional approach to satisfy the authorities and to act as a centre for correspondence and accountability.

AD was also looking into new signatories for the bank account and better ways to monitor the account and membership lists to distinguish Birmingham and Leicester giving. Additional concerns were VAT issues, accounts for end of year reporting, computing systems, stationery requirements and an asset register.

AT expressed concern that the personnel to operate the office may not be available (or willing to regularly travel to the office) and that the office would end up just as a storage area. AT suggested that until the income increased sufficiently to allow a part time employee, an office could be set up at home and business affairs be run from a home base (as had been done previously in 2002 by the church). Concerns were raised with respect to the effect that health or home issues may impact upon the efficient running of the church with this proposal.

DL suggested that the emphasis be put into setting up operating procedures first to address the current state of affairs. DL suggested inquiring into the operation of a PO Box system in the interim.

There was general support for the setting up of an office but as the number of shepherds was low and AD is committing his own time to this project, AD was asked to email all the shepherds with his proposals to expedite a decision during the next week.

All at the meeting thanked AD for his exemplary efforts and his willingness to help the church succeed.

All
3. Pastoral Matters  
  AT asked that the appointment of new shepherds be brought to a conclusion. It was agreed that all the current shepherds should decide who would be suitable and then give the church an objection period before the new group was formed. Current nominees were confirmed as Denzyl, Mick Andrews, Vicky Redgrave, Liz Palmer and Derek and Carol Edmondson.

It was agreed that all the shepherds should talk to the above names to ascertain their viewpoints and motivation prior to a discussion at the next meeting. The shepherds should also inform those who wanted to be involved of what would be involved and the importance of the role.

Shepherds
  A confidential matter was also discussed. Shepherds
4. Leicester  
  DL handed out a diary of future events in Leicester and reported that the invitation of Family Groups from Birmingham to Leicester was going very well.  
  DL reported that they would be using the funds built up over the past year to help fund travel and other disbursements.  
 

DE left at 9:55pm.

 
5. Any Other Business  
 
  • AT outlined a plan to set up/revive a benevolence committee. He would gather together those wishing to be involved and help to organise the first few meetings. The aim being to bring about a solid committee that understood what their remit would be and had a good line of communication with the shepherds/trustees.
 
 
  • It was agreed that the recent presentation had been of great benefit to the congregation and that this should be kept up with a similar event each quarter.
 
 
  • TD asked that the shepherds discuss the roles within the shepherds group at the next meeting. This would be along the lines of the thoughts recently forwarded to all from Jon Yorke.
Shepherds

Andy Torbet - Minute Taker